we have low rates now. this is the sort of thing that is true, until it is not. >> now, one last question, there is a common refrain i hear, people know that i have some means. they say if we tax guys like you, it doesn't raise a lot of money. i say listen, i'm part of the piece that you raise. this arguments that if we raise rates for individuals, that is not going to solve the problem? >> it is not going to solve the problem. i always say look, when it comes to means testing medicare, medicaid, means testing social security, having us pay more, i understand all of that. but don't confuse that with an actual financial solution to the problem. we benefit the most, we need to make sure that we pay more. don't confuse that with the financial solution. >> it takes us off the track.